Vestiges of Our Current Technics
Alchemical responses from a reader
I’m going to dip back into reader correspondence a bit because the engagement there has been top notch.
He writes (emphasis added by me):
The future is one of catabolic collapse and disappearance of the industrial dynamism that has characterized the past two centuries. There is no utopia possible, but the departure of the always-whirring, dislocating force of modernity presents us a world of greater friction and (to the individual) a vastly greater apparent scale, where kinship, magic, and danger return to the life of individuals.
The task of our remaining years of technological mastery will to be build fallback structures that can retain living vestiges of our present technics & its implicit knowledge base. A network of sigils & monuments developed throughout the land, legacy systems in the sky and earth that function for generations, ones that testify to the power of man’s reason. These may serve as targets that inspire our inheritors to reach for the heights once again, once the foundations of a successive systems of technics have again allowed them the luxury of structured intellectual development.
Such that our ancestors will not gaze mutely upon blasted remnants of past civilizations in ignorance, but will know of our climb to the peaks, & have a truer story of our triumphs and follies. And perhaps once again, they will reach out to touch the stars.
I’m not in the doomer camp myself but I love this email and I enjoy that this Substack is capable of eliciting thoughtful responses.
But back to Greer, Kunstler, and Orlov — of the three, I’m only familiar with Greer, having been an occasional visitor to his Ecosophia website over the years; I’ve linked to Ecosophia at my other blog a couple of times.
Kunstler seems like an interesting character who’s hard to peg. I’m fairly certain I’ve glanced at his book The Geography of Nowhere on Amazon once or twice. The internet says he imagines peak oil/oil depletion causing the end of industrialized society, with Americans forced to live agrarian lifestyles.
He wrote this banger of a blog post in March 2020, stating:
This is our hard time. If you ever needed God, or some human representation of the good father, this would be the occasion; someone to guide and reassure you and inspire you to do your best under difficult circumstances. For the time being, America has Donald Trump. To the agnostical thinking class, with its obsessive loathing of men, white men especially, and white men in the father role most of all, Mr. Trump represents the ultimate grotesquerie. To that class of scribes, professors, assorted “creatives,” virtue signalers, and social justice seekers, even Tennessee Williams could not conjure up a more fearsome and detestable Big Daddy than Mr. Trump. Hence, their nonstop underhanded attempts to get rid of him the past three years — which had all the earmarks of a neurotic adolescent rebellion. (“The Resistance” was actually a good name for it.) And yet, there he stands at the podium in our hard time. You can call that a lot of things, but one of them has got to be: strength…One thing for sure: he’s been subjected to more political abuse than any character on-the-scene in my lifetime, and it’s amazing that he didn’t fold or quit or lose his shit as it went on and on and on.
And check out this prescience, from the same blog post:
[Joe Biden] went into the anarchic mess of Ukraine — engineered by US agencies, by the way — as Mr. Obama’s “point man” and came away from it with at least several million dollars in a guaranteed revenue stream for his hapless fuck-up of a son, Hunter, and there’s hard evidence that many millions more found its way into Joe’s pockets, too, via Ukrainian oligarch money laundered through the banks of Estonia and Cyprus — who would look there? (Rudy Giuliani, actually.)
As for Orlov, it turns out that he too is an interesting character; described by some as a collapsitarian. Says Wikipedia:
By 2019, Orlov felt that most of the ingredients precipitating collapse of the United States were in place, and that the one single ingredient still missing--a humiliating military defeat--was underway:
The function of the US military is to intimidate other countries into letting the US buy whatever it wants by printing US dollars as needed [...] Once their ability to intimidate the world into submission is gone [...] all that will remain of the “richest country in the world” is a pile of worthless paper. However, my employment as a bathhouse manager will still be secure.
At least one humiliating military defeat (Afghanistan) is now official. The current proxy war with Russia doesn’t seem to be going too well either.
Will collapse soon follow, or will we enter the Turbo phase of America?